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Leah Cooper: Passage to India

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Besides being an executive at a multinational mining and resources group, Leah Cooper is a wife and mother to two young boys. She meets all of those obligations with creative solutions, friends say, and that experience influenced her recent outsourcing plan that sends basic legal tasks to a team of lawyers in India.

Cooper, Rio Tinto’s managing attorney, started outsourcing the work in May, and so far, she says, the plan has saved her United Kingdom-based company more than $4 million in legal fees. She estimates she can get what is normally in-house work done in India for one third the cost, and one seventh the cost for outside-law-firm work.

“Every time I go to legal conferences I hear a lot of folks talking about legal costs, how the law firm model is broken …over and over,” says Cooper, 40. “I feel good because we’re not just complaining about it, we’ve actually done something. And you know what? It works really well.”

In the next few years, Cooper suspects, more in-house legal departments will try what she’s developing.

“We can’t complain about things we’re not willing to go out and change ourselves. What’s the point of complaining?” she asks. “The law firms weren’t jumping up and down to change their cost margins. I had to get something done, and I did.”

Cooper’s partner for the plan is CPA Global, a legal outsourcing company. She contacted them after an internal employee satisfaction survey showed her senior lawyers were bogged down with low-value work like procurement contracts.

“When good work came in the door, they didn’t have time to do it,” she says, and it went to outside counsel.

And while preparing her budget last fall it quickly became apparent that she needed to cut costs. Cooper wanted lawyers with 2-10 years experience who could do legal research and writing.

In India law firms are often nepotistic. Many are run by families, and if you aren’t a family member, Cooper says, you’ll never have the chance to run a law firm. So the country, which has a common-law system, has many qualified lawyers who are underemployed.

In-house lawyers from the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia provided the India team with additional training, and their work is evaluated with a quality rating system. Cooper wanted lawyers with an average of five years experience, and the rating system shows her if the experience median she set works.

“This is really about how can we combine our efforts to show that every step of the way, the lawyer is doing the right piece of work and we’re providing a quality, cost-effective product,” she says. “We’ll never get rid of our outside counsel. We want their top-tier strategic counsel. What we don’t need is to pay $300 to $400 an hour for an associate to do word processing.”

Other companies are exploring legal outsourcing, she says, noting New York-based HSBC Bank has a Malaysian legal team, but it’s slightly different because those lawyers are HSBC employees. And much of their work centers on filling out forms, while the Indian lawyers are actually practicing law for Rio Tinto.

“To me it just made a lot of walking-around sense. I thought we’d be crazy not to try it,” Cooper says. “Even if it went really wrong, the investment was small.”

The project is now at the point where some of her outside counsel—whom Cooper says she will always need—advise her to redirect some of their legal work to the India team.

“As long as the quality of the people they’re using is good and there are sufficient controls around it, I’m happy to try it out,” says Richard W. Grime, a securities and regulatory partner at O’Melveny & Myers who represents Rio Tinto. Recent work he’s advised Cooper to outsource involved document review, translation and paralegal-type work on a large project.

“I don’t think law firms are going to be able to keep as much work to themselves as they have done in the past. Clients want an efficient, effective solution to their issues,” says Grime, who practices in Washington, D.C. “I suspect she will get a lot of calls, if she hasn’t already.”

The plan, Cooper says, has “put me on the map a little bit.”

A 1995 graduate of the University Of Florida College Of Law in Gainesville, Cooper began her legal career at Foley & Lardner. She left as a mid-level associate to go in-house at Bell South. She later moved to AGL Resources, a publicly traded oil and energy company, and joined Rio Tinto in 2007 as vice president and general counsel. Slightly more than a year later she was promoted to managing attorney, and she and her family moved to London.

“She’s definitely a take-charge person. She has to be,” says Kara Skorupa, a partner with North Palm Beach’s Deratany, Skorupa & O’Hara, who attended law school with Cooper. Skorupa recalls that while most of her classmates were basically extending the college experience, Cooper was already married, with a house and a dog.

“She was much more mature than the rest of us,” says Skorupa, adding that Cooper is not someone who feels that to be taken seriously she has to be “the meanest or the toughest,” but she’s also comfortable asserting herself.

“I think sometimes that takes people off guard—she’s a petite Southern blonde,” Skorupa says. “Frankly, there are a lot of companies that wouldn’t take a chance on someone who’s young and has young children. Typically those things work against you. But look what (Rio Tinto’s) gotten out of it.”

Watch Prof. Richard Susskind interview Leah Cooper about the outsourcing decision.

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  1. Posted by B. McLeod - 9 months, 2 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 59 minutes ago

    As time goes by, more and more companies will be working out similar alternatives.  Conspicuous waste may be seen as helpful to corporate image when there is enough to waste (and no shareholder pushback), but for all other scenarios, it makes sense for companies to have a “Plan B.”

  2. Posted by George Sly - 9 months, 2 weeks, 7 hours, 25 minutes ago

    Mr. McLeod is correct that companies will look to save costs and law firms cannot continue to charge their ridiculous rates.  However, I doubt any of those Indian lawyers are licensed to practice law in any other jurisdiction?  I cannot practice law in India, why can someone in India do legal work to be used in the United States?  Ms. Cooper is the typical corporate executive.

    If she handled the manufacturing side of her company, she would be shipping jobs to China or some third world country, where she could use child labor, forced labor and pay everyone else a $1.00 a day, and not worry about safety, health or environmental regulations.  In fact that’s where most of Rio Tinto’s operations are.  I fail to see how Ms. Cooper is a “legal rebel” she’s just another corporate executive with the morals and ideology of other corporate executives.

  3. Posted by myrtle - 9 months, 2 weeks, 5 hours, 45 minutes ago

    Has Ms. Cooper read the Pulitzer Prize winning novel “White Tiger”?  If not, I suggest she does.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, entry level US attorneys can’t even get doc review gigs.  As they are being outsourced to—India.  Wonder how Ms. Cooper would have like to start out in 2009 as an attorney. 

    Just another praise the corporate gods article by the ABA.

  4. Posted by Shelter in Place - 9 months, 2 weeks, 5 hours, 32 minutes ago

    There are associates down the hall in my own firm I wouldn’t want working on my clients’ matters.  I can’t imagine trusting lawyers halfway round the world, with law degrees from heaven knows what law school, to do any serious legal work.  And if it’s not serious legal work, it could probably be done at a reasonable cost by paralegals and other non-lawyers here in the U.S.

  5. Posted by AndytheLawyer - 9 months, 2 weeks, 5 hours, 32 minutes ago

    The solution is obvious.  Recent law school grads need to do what their ancestors did—move from the USA to some other country with greater employment opportunities and a better oportunity for a decent quality of life.  Right now, that would be India.

  6. Posted by Diana M - 9 months, 2 weeks, 4 hours, 53 minutes ago

    I’m a law student.All I and my classmates want is experience and we would charge the company far less than they’re paying lawyers in India. India may have common law but their law school accredidation has an unknown standard. At least the company would know what my standard of education was.If the ABA endorses outsourcing with it’s articles, why should I pay ABA dues? It’s like paying into a fund to take away my job opportunities.

  7. Posted by Nina - 9 months, 2 weeks, 3 hours, 36 minutes ago

    Very interesting story. Along with George Sly, I question how attorneys licensed to practice in one jurisdiction (India) can prepare work that will be used in any other jurisdiction (any country Rio Tinto operates, and I don’t think that includes the US), unless it is vetted by (an)other (set of) attorneys in the target jurisdiction.

    I disagree with Diana M—the ABA is not necessarily endorsing the practice of outsourcing legal work. They are merely keeping us all informed about new developments, and I think this one is useful to hear.

  8. Posted by Roger - 9 months, 2 weeks, 11 minutes ago

    I’m not convinced that outsourced legal work is an effective way to provide the best legal service to clients.  Foreign attorneys are not regulated by State Bars and are not required to have graduated from an ABA approved law school.

    I run a “virtual” law firm at illinoisvirtuallaw.com and have been providing document review services to clients for a fraction of typical attorney costs.  I am a licensed Illinois attorney and have practiced as a litigation attorney for several years.  Therefore, I am confident that my real world experience allows me to understand the legal issues that are relevant to the case in which I am providing document review services for as compared to a foreign attorney who may not have ever litigated a case in the U.S. 

    I am sure that I am not the only U.S. attorney that offers these services at a competitive price.  We should utilize U.S. attorneys and make sure that we are providing clients with the best legal service possible.

  9. Posted by Steve W. - 9 months, 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes ago

    I’ve used illinoisvirtuallaw.com and could be happier with the service provided.  The hourly cost is very reasonable and in line with the outsourcing companies discussed above. I believe that we can use attorneys with litigation experience and that are licensed in the jurisdiction (or at least in the same country!) that our cases are being litigated, for the same cost savings provided by these outsourcing companies.